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Sunday, April 09, 2006

Iraq Fatalities and Car Bombings Decreasing, NOT Increasing.

If you only listened to the mainstream media and the DNC you would be under the impression that things in Iraq just get worse with each passing day. Actually, the opposite is true.

US troops killed in hostile action in Iraq last six months from October 2005 to March 2006, in order: 81, 76, 50, 49, 43, 25.

Car bombings in the last six months, from October to March, in order: 70, 70, 70, 68, 30, 30.

Iraqi military and police killed in Iraq in the last six months, in order: 215, 176, 193, 189, 158 and 193. The three months before that were 304, 282, and 233.

Civilians killed in Iraq, last six months, October 2005 to March 2006 in order: 527, 826, 532, 732, 950, 446 in March, the two months before that in August and September of last year -- 2,849 and 1,129. So last August, 2,489 civilians killed in Iraq; in March, 446.


Blogger joe said...

Yes, the number of reported attacks is down, But the number of deaths per attack is up, they arent slowing down, they are getting more precise, and the attacks more deadly as time goes on.

3:18 PM  
Blogger Senor said...

Geez, the glass is always half empty isnt it? LESS people are dying. LESS attacks are taking place.

The Iraqi soldiers are getting more precise and more deadly as time goes by. But you dont want that, do you Joe? What you really want is for things to go very very poorly for the US as long as GW is in power. Too bad you arent honest enough to admit it.

10:23 PM  
Blogger prying1 said...

Iraqi citizens are reporting where the bad guys are.

U.S. and Iraqi troops are catching/finding terrorists and the weapon caches.

It could be that these reasons AND Washington NOT micromanaging the war is causing the numbers to go the way they are.

Iran will be next to fall!

2:52 AM  
Blogger joe said...

You insult me sir, to say I want things to go badly, I dont want anyone dying anywhere for any reason. I most assuredly do not want our kids dying in an unjust war, but I do want honesty. A short lull in violence 3 years after the fact harldy mean we are winning, and that the attacks get more deadly and more sophisticated is a sign that the insurgency is doing better, which is NOT something I like to see, as they are primarily targeting our kids. On the other hand, as even our troops dont know who it is the enemy is, I think its disengenous to say the terrorists are winning, clearly they are not, but who are we fighting? We've let this drag on too long without a semblance of control. This administration is as incompetent as they are criminal. The only reason this action in Iraq isnt already horribly worse, is we have a core of highly trained and effective soldiers who get the job done no matter how badly it was planned. But we are losing them daily, and I for one think we'd be better off to redeploy to some measureable distance, offer the assistance needed by the iraqi forces, but get out of there and act on a purely support basis.

Of course we never had any plans to leave
or we wouldnt be funneling billions to halliburton to build permanent bases, in I might add, complete contradiction to the campaign promises made by bush during the 2000 elections.

Please dont insinuate I want our troops dying again, I certainly never made any such attacks against you.

I am an american, I love my country, despite its current administration, or the fact that I think they are running this country into the ground with thier obtuse domestic policies. Pointing out that they are running it into the ground isnt anti-american, its how adults handle bad situations, bring the problems to light and try to get a concensus as to how we go about fixing it. or we could just choose your path: everything these criminals do is okay becuase they are in charge. That is freaking pathetic.

Is that how you raise your kids? That everything daddy does is okay, but only do what daddy says is okay for them to do?

8:37 PM  
Blogger Senor said...

LOL, I knew the new buzzword would be in there somewhere.


A single word that says so much about those who use it.

9:12 PM  
Blogger Senor said...

"Is that how you raise your kids? That everything daddy does is okay, but only do what daddy says is okay for them to do?"

If I had kids, yes. Thats because we are the adults and they are still KIDS.

My dad drank scotch, smoked cigarettes, drove his corvette too fast....And he would often say "dont do as I do, do as I say" and "when you are 18 you can do what you want cuz you'll be paying your own bills".

Yup, Dad was a typical dad. What, your daddy kept everything out of site of his precious little sugarpants?

9:16 PM  
Blogger joe said...

Not only are you insulting, you are blatantly rude.

My father was a decent and honorable man, he was also horribly flawed as we all are, and made no false pretenses about his faults. He smoked and told me why I shouldnt, As a cop he didnt drink much, but he did teach me respect for the law and why it should be respected. As such I do my best not to run afoul of the law, despite my disagreement with many of them.

I keep seeing how deluded I was to think you were actually someone with some common sense who would welcome some honest discussion, even if we disagreed. Well its all my mistake. Its a shame really, here I thought you were just someone with a rather raw sense of humor who enjoyed the discussion. I gnerally like people like that, but I didnt realize it would devolve into this.

That's me though always seeing the best in people and always proven wrong.

5:03 AM  
Blogger joe said...

Just one more question then, what exactly does redeploy mean to you? and what could it ppossibly say about a person who uses it? I heard it all the time from the cops I grew up around and the military men I saw in both rotc and boot camp, I think I've already admitted I crapped out due to my siezure disorder, but all these military men and police used the word...what exactly is it you think they were saying? its a military tactic you know, much like terrorism, or Shock and awe as Bush likes to call it.

5:07 AM  
Blogger Senor said...

I find it humorous that anytime somebody disagrees with you they are 'blantantly rude'.
I never said anything disparaging about your father.

Redeploy= buzzword that sounds better than cut and run.

7:33 AM  
Blogger joe said...

I didnt ever once even imply you said anything about my father.

I was refferring to this :

What, your daddy kept everything out of site of his precious little sugarpants?

There was also the thing about my mother wanting me to clean the basement... I still dont know what that was supposed to mean. but I could just take a wild guess and say you're trying to goad me into acting as childish as you do when you cant sufficiently answer any of my points.

So all of the Cops and Military men I knew or studied under were just saying cut and run? Its good to know they were all such cowards. And here I even used to respect them. ah well.

I guess this guy: Argus Leader - Gingrich is not guilty of being a coward then since he just said . "We have to pull back, and we have to recognize it."

6:49 PM  
Blogger Jason Ward said...

Hey Joe, it is obvious things are getting better. This is why the 'media' is giving so much play to illegal immigration and the Enron trial.

There is a lot to be said for the attitudes of the Iraqi people when a police station gets attacked and the next day the line is around the building with new recruits looking for a job.

The more trust that the Iraqis have in Coalintion forces, the easier this will become. Two reasons, specifically:

1) The insurgency/Al Qaeda made a huge strategic error when they started attacking Iraqis en mass. They failed to destabilize the civil services and have alienated the general public.

2) Iraqis are the key. An American soldier cannot tell the difference between the speech patterns of Arabs in a location, whereas an Iraqi can easily identify a Syrian or Saudi dialect. The more that Iraqis build their forces (now 200,000+), the easier it will become. While we may have superior firepower, the key to destoying or at least marginalizing the insurgency will be civilian assistance.

1:26 AM  
Blogger joe said...

Jason, of Course there are good things happening, I just dont think any of it has anything to do with any planning from the administration or any vindication whatsoever for the constant lying going on.

I agree completely that the Iraqi's are the key to thier future, Which is why I think we need to pull back enough to let them make some of their own mistakes, we've made enough for them already. In no way do I condone abandoning the situation, but I do think the Iraqi's need to be allowed to make their own mistakes again. We are not competent to adress the cultural realities of their country.

11:06 PM  

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